![]() For those people, this topic can be a sort of "Defense of the Dark Arts" thread. ![]() Perhaps, most admirably, some of us simply wanted to put the system through its paces and learn where the loopholes were to close them. And here's some for you and you and you and.") Hey, you, cop on the beat, drink this cup of, umm, energy drink which tastes and looks suspiciously like blood. I'll buy high social stats, high social skills, and, umm, Natural Leader, Enchanting Voice, and Presence.") Did we do it because we really were just trying to beat the system. Did we do it because we were an ST looking to nip min/maxing in the bud? ("You want to play a Nosferatu with Vicissitude? Ummm.") Did we do it because we wanted a character who really was the very, very best at what they do and wanted mechanics to reflect that? ("I'm a leader. With each new edition, the community of VtM players sifted through the rules to find loopholes, strategies, and inobvious rules synergies which could be exploited. In any case, they do exist, and need to be discussed in the context of V5. ![]() Maybe, you think they are just following one of many equally valid ways of playing the game. ![]() Maybe, you're impressed with their mastery of the rules. Maybe, you think min/maxers ruin the game by ignoring role-playing and dramatic possibilities. ![]()
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